My apologies for the dramatic title. Just to be clear, I am not using this term in a derogatory nature, nor am I defending Mamakchess's arguments. I have been out of action for many weeks and my fingers are just itchy after seeing another brainless "argument":
If you guys have not been listening to my advice and have kept on visiting a certain blog, then you would have known that this whole issue resulted from a stupid question:
"But since the topic is brought up, can I ask the blogger in Mamak Chess if it is true that Greg just gave Kelantan a sum of money to do a "chess tournament"? This money has not been cleared by MCF committee. Not tabled and so the money could be haram."I just can't believe that FGM has the gall to associate "Mamak Gang" with Kelantan Chess and then later in the post, ask who is Mamak Chess? If you don't know who it is, how can you say they are associated?
Never mind, let us pretend that in this world, such nonsense is possible. Anyone with any idea how to browse the Mamak Chess blog will know that the following are considered players that are typically classified in the "Mamak Gang":
Yes, I took the picture from the Mamak Chess blog. If you were a regular chess player, you would easily know who these guys are. In fact, with a bit more homework, you can also look at the "Mamak Gang" team at last year's Astro Rapid:
Of course, there are others who are not in the picture and also not listed above. I can think of Abdullah Che Hassan. How many of these players are actually from Kelantan? I would say almost all of the above players are NOT from Kelantan. So how can FGM claim that:
"As far as I know Mamak gang is part of the Kelantan group..."when the only player that is probably remotely closely associated to Kelantan is Abdullah. And if I am not mistaken, Abdullah used to play for Johor.
How do I prove that the above players are not from Kelantan? Fortunately, thanks to "Sicilian-Najdorf", I could get my hands on the list of players from Kelantan. This is from the Jan 2012 National Rating list:
2271 Mas Hafizulhelmi
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2112 Ahmad Maliki Mohamed
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2101 Azahari Mohd Noor
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1877 Abdul Haq Mohamed
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1870 Abdullah Che Hassan
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1849 Nik Ahmad Farouqi
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1800 Mohd Musa Al-Ashaari
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1782 Mohd Irman Ibrahim
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1749 Nasrul Humaimi Mahmood
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1746 Mohd Azizul Mat Daud
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1741 Syed Azizi Abdul Rahman
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1706 Mohd Ezmi Mahmood
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1701 Mohd Amin Mohd Noor
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1663 Nik Mohd Nazri Nik Hasan
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1658 Izuddin Ahayat
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1655 Marzuki Yaacob
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1628 Muhd Bakri Jusoh
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1621 Wan Mahadzir Wan Sulaiman
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1597 Shahril Sulaiman
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1591 Siti Nur Afiqah Mohd Haslam
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1588 Rosmizal Ibrahim
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1586 Mohd Bukhari Yahya
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1582 Noor Hisyam Ahayat
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1574 Baharuddin Hamzah
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1572 Ghazali Che Cob
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1563 Laila Husna Sahadi
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1562 Mohd Rezal Che Man
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1559 Mohd Fauzan Ahayat
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1540 Muhd Nor Khairullah
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1539 Muhd Ariez Azman
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1537 Anuar Ahayat
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1527 Sanusi Muhamad
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1527 Azmizi Abdullah
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1519 Sahadi Ismail
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1519 Muhammad Ali Asghar
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1509 Khairul Aznan Mohd Kamal
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1506 Mohd Hafidz Mat Daud
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I stopped at above 1500. If you want to see beyond this, go to the website that I linked. Where is Saprin? Where is Kamaluddin? Where is Fairin? Where is Kamal Ariffin? So how can the Mamak Gang be associated with Kelantan Chess? So when FGM says "As far as I know..." actually, he doesn't know very far. He is just tying the Mamak Gang with Kelantan, then attack Kelantan + Greg, and then discredit the Mamak Gang. If this sounds confusing, then just look at the illustration below:
Disclaimer: The picture above is merely for illustration purposes. Any negative implication on the parties involved is purely coincidental
If an idiot like me can figure out that the Mamak Gang and Kelantan are totally different entities, then it just means that it is either utter LAZINESS or STUPIDITY on FGM's part for his failure determine whether Kelantan and Mamak Gang is related or not.
Of course now, he won't even apologize. He will just say, I reserve the right to pose questions. Blah blah blah... we have all heard the story before.
That illustration is just so funny LOL
ReplyDeleteThis must be the answer he's looking for http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=1128493
ReplyDeleteIt seems that Ng6 has claimed to dissociate himself from Mamak Chess and Mamak Gang.
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The question still remains, if FGM has absolutely no idea who Mamak Chess is, why did he associate Mamak Chess with Kelantan and why did he pseudo-accuse them about whatever possibly imaginary money that Greg gave to Kelantan?
The problem with accountability does not even depend on whether one is anonymous or not. FGM has no accountability even when he is clearly wrong. He has utterly failed to show any relationship between Mamak Chess and Kelantan and have even accused them of deflecting when asked about the "money" issue. Where is the accountability? Where is the evidence that fraud has taken place? Can one willy nilly make accusations and then say, I have the right to pose questions?
If you have sources to back up your claim, then reveal them. Why so afraid? Why keep them in the dark? So, clearly even without anonymity, you can have zero accountability.
He is totally off the deep end. Full of hatred and supremely egoistic.
DeleteP/S: My apologies to Razali. The picture was used to prove a point. It is by no means used to tarnish the Ng6 name or Mamak Gang.
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